From: Date: January 20, 2005 6:07:19 PM PST To: mhorney@darkwing.uoregon.edu Subject: Tappedin transcript for MarkAH, 2005.01.20 18:02:06 MarkAH contributed 15 messages, 9 emotes, 3 private messages during 66 minutes. 2005.01.20 16:55:21 Login Room: DigitalLibrary MarkAH joined the room. MarkAH left the room. Room: TI_Reception MarkAH joined the room. MarkAH left the room. Room: ASO MarkAH joined the room. SusanR slips out to attend to some chores BJB2: Hi, Mark. Welcome SusanR left the room. BJB2: are you here for the LOC discussion? MadGst1 goes back to Maggi MarkAH: Hi, is this thediscussion on civil rights? BJB2 Nods to Mark MarkAH: Great BJB2: haven't started yet MadGst1 left the room (signed off). MarkAH: I have a couple of collegues who may join us BJB2: great, Mark MichaelH joined the room. MichaelH waves MarkAH: We're starting a project to help American History teachers here in Oregon and I'm proposingTI as a meeting nexus LeniD joined the room. MichaelH waves to Leni LeniD: Hi Michael :-) LeniD: Hi Mark and BJ :-) MichaelH: did you go to the parade today? BjB: |** ANNOUNCEMENT: The LOC Learning Page Chat on Civil Rights is starting shortly in the After School Online Room. To participate click on the ONLINE tab to the left of your chat window, single click on LeniD and then click on the door icon at the bottom of the frame. **| LeniD: No...but I have seen more than my share of it on TV! BJB2 . o O ( if you see this you're in the right place ) MarkAH waves MichaelH: I didn'thave access to TV today, and watched just the very end after I got home from school LeniD: My daughter is attending an inaugural ball :-) MichaelH: that's cool LeniD: I hope to get the "inside story" from her :-) MichaelH: I'm sure all the festivities today made the traffic flow fun... LeniD: Governement offices were closed today. OrangelA joined the room. LeniD: Traffic and metro were still a nightmare! MichaelH: Oh , I can imagine. LeniD: Welcome Orange:-) MichaelH: were schools in session? OrangelA: thanks... MichaelH waves to Orange OrangelA left the room (signed off). LeniD: Some districts were open...DC and Alexandria were closed. MichaelH: I have only driven in DC once, and that was enough, Leni! LeniD: With all the road closures, you wouldn't have been able to drive much today, anyway :-) MichaelH: And, I've only done the Metro once, and that was MORE than enough :) MichaelH: Leni, what ball is your daughter at? Suzie has CNN on now, and Bush is at the Freedom Ball LeniD: I just saw pictures of metro on the news...looked like it may have been Metro Center...such a crush, people were unable to move! LeniD: I don't know which ball, Michael :-( She was doing a friend a favor and filling in for someone at the last moment! MichaelH: Oh, Suzie just said this one is at Union Station LeniD: I'll let you know tomorrow :-) LeniD: Welll.... MichaelH: ok LeniD: Shall we talk about Civil Rights? MichaelH: Yep BJB2 knows that Leni always has a lot of information to share MichaelH: shall I go ahead and introduce you? MichaelH: and the session LeniD: I really have a GREAT deal tonight, so we had better get started! LeniD: Please, Michael. MichaelH: Ok BJB2: Mark, do you know how to detach your chat window? MichaelH: Hi, everyone, MichaelH: Welcome to tonight's Learning Page Chat MarkAH settles into his role as audience ......with a detached chat window MichaelH: Leni has a lot of great resources and lesson ideas to share tonight on the subject of Civil Rights MichaelH: and of course, it is appropriate since we jus t celebrated the MLK holiday MichaelH: First, though, MichaelH: let's introduce ourselves to each other MichaelH looks to see who would like to say "hey" DavidWe joined the room. BJB2 waves hi. I'm an art teacher in Pennsylvania and great fan of Leni's sessions. LeniD: Welcome, David :-) DavidWe: Thanks, Leni. Hi MarkAH: I'm a Research Associate at the University of Oregon; we're doing a project with American History Teachers LeniD: Mark, do you have a Teaching American History Grant? MarkAH nods MichaelH is a technology facilitator in southwestern Indiana DavidWe . o O ( technology facilitator? ) MichaelH: yep, have been for about two years LeniD: and I'm the coordinator of the Learning Page project, as well as a very active member of our ed outreach team. LeniD: Mark...we have worked with a number of grant consortiums...as partners and presenting programs at the Library. Let me know if we can be of help to your group! MarkAH: We certainly will LeniD: Good :-) LeniD: Sooooo..... MichaelH: ready, Leni? LeniD: Yep :-) MichaelH gives Leni the floor LeniD: Learning about the ÒCivil RightsÓ... DavidWe . o O ( it's such a nice floor ) LeniD: once meant understanding the struggle of African Americans to obtain equal rights and equal opportunities in the United States. LeniD: When you teach about "civil rights" today... LeniD: is this still what is being discussed, or are we talking about a much broader issue? MichaelH: Leni, I think the groups we consider "fighting" for civil rights have changed, not the struggle itself LeniD: Yes, I suspect this is true... BJB2: I think we're still talking about equal rights and equal opportunities, but the cultural groups have expanded MichaelH: When we were growing up, Civil Rights meant African Americans LeniD: but I was also wondering in this post 9/11 world about whether the US view of civil rights has changed. MichaelH: oh, absolutely MichaelH: To me (ok, this is the government teacher in me talking), with the Patriot Act, we all have to concern ourselves with civil rights LeniD: Do you talk with students about such issues? Does your curriculum allow it? LeniD: I was thinking that as well Michael. LeniD: I guess we don't have history/government teachers here tonight. I'm truly curious about what is being "taught" and discussed about such issues with students today. MichaelH: Leni, I think the focus is changing... MarkAH . o O ( .... world rights..... ) MichaelH: to african americans, but also hispanic, handicapped, gays MichaelH: at least in our textbook LeniD: World rights at the University level, Mark. Does it trickle down to highschool and below, I wonder? LeniD: I'm glad to hear that textbooks are reflecting current thinking :-> MichaelH: it's been a little while for me, Leni, but it's still there LeniD: Well..I'll ruminate in private, so I can show you the promised resources from the Library. LeniD: Ready? MichaelH is DavidWe . o O ( ready ) MarkAH nodes LeniD: We have some excellent online exhibitions that offer both context and primary source documents to use with your students... BJB2 fastens her seatbelt LeniD: ÒWith an Even handÓ: Brown v. Board at Fifty LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/brown/ MichaelH reminds all to take a minute and look, but come back here for more MichaelH . o O ( all URLs will be in the transcript ) MichaelH: click on the blue link to see the page LeniD: The African-American Mosaic LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african/intro.html LeniD: American Treasures - Civil Rights LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/tr22a.html#civilrights MichaelH checks to see if everyone is A-OK DavidWe checks his pulse AND BJ's seatbelt MarkAH nods LeniD: LOL! Speeding along... DavidWe smiles LeniD: From Abolition to Equal Rights (John Bull and Uncle Sam - Four Centuries of British-American Relations) DavidWe: Keep it under the speed limit, please, Ms. Dolan LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/british/brit-4.html LeniD: I'll tap the brakes when asked :-) MichaelH: it's ok, Leni,... we can always look at the trancripts LeniD: I know :-) But I do want to give you a chance to be tantalized! LeniD: These special presentations from the American Memory collections are not to be missed... LeniD: African American History and Culture (donÕt miss the ÒSelected itemsÓ list!) LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/mcchtml/afrhm.html LeniD: African-American Odyssey: A Quest for Full Citizenship LeniD: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/aaohtml/exhibit/aointro.html DavidWe wonders if Leni saw the most recent film about Jack Johnson that Michael told him about MichaelH watched it DavidWe . o O ( by Ken Burns ) DavidWe did too LeniD: I didn't, David. Was it good? LeniD: Voices from the Days of Slavery MichaelH: Leni, Samuel L. Jackson was the voice of Jack Johnson LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/vfshtml/vfshome.html LeniD: Ahhh...then it was probably very good. ChantaratP joined the room. MarkAH: I saw this, but thought that somethings were left somewhat mysterious.... MichaelH waves to Chantara LeniD: Hmmm...sounds like a mixed review, Mark. ChantaratP: Hi Micchael and everyone MarkAH: ... to the end of his life Jackson seemed to always have money.... he died driving one of "his fast cars" DavidWe waves to Chantarat LeniD: Welcome, Chantarat. MarkAH: It was very good... there just isn't time to tell everything of course DavidWe agrees with Mark LeniD: I see...thanks :-) LeniD: Faces and Voices from the Presentation LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/vfshtml/vfssp.html LeniD: You can find webliographies and bibliographies such as these... MarkAH listens to one of the recordings from this site... Fountain Hughes LeniD: They are wonderful, Mark. They are one of our more recent publications. LeniD: African American Sites in the Digital Collections LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/afam/afam-home.html MarkAH: Multi-media resources like this have a huge impact with students DavidWe agrees LeniD: Yes, I know. They are a multi-media generation...but seeing and hearing has huge impact on learners of all ages. LeniD: Brown v. Board of Education Webliography LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/afam/afam-brown.html DavidWe: There's a rich resource LeniD: Most definitely! MichaelH: Chantara, Brown vs. Board is an important court case that said that schools could not be separated by black and white students... LeniD: If you are looking for images to introduce or reinforce lessons... LeniD: the LibraryÕs Prints and Photographs Divison offers.. LeniD: Sources for Images on AfricanAmerican History LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/resource/063_afr.html JeffC joined the room. LeniD: You may not know about this collaboration... LeniD: Hi Jeff! ChantaratP: Yes, I agree but there are more mis imderstand and practice, particulary in the difference culture like , china, an d south east asia , JeffC waves LeniD: the Library and other organizations are collectiong and preserving thousands of personal stories... DavidWe waves to Jeff LeniD: oral histories, photographs, and personal artifacts documenting the Civil Rights Movement in America... LeniD: Voices of Civil Rights LeniD: http://www.voicesofcivilrights.org/ LeniD: Chatarat...such problems exist in many places, don't they? LeniD: The Library offers many in-house lectures and programs... LeniD: many of which are subsequently offered online as streaming video cybercasts... ChantaratP: Sorry for me the terms Civil Right is new indeed, it is suport be difference diffinition, is it ? LeniD: W.Ralph Eubanks Discusses Memoir LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/locvideo/eubanks/ MichaelH: Chantara, we basically would describe this as a fight for equal opportunity and equal standing in society LeniD: Langston Hughes and His Poetry LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/journey/hughes.html DavidWe: If I can add to Michael's comment...at a time when there were laws that required different people to use different public facilities MichaelH: traditionally, this would be seen as a fight for african americans, but, today we would also look at women, those who are hispanic, native American, homosexual, and so on... ChantaratP: can it be compare with Gender dispartity, as UNESCO declaration in Dakka ? DavidWe: Yes, I think we can, Chantarat LeniD: I agree, David and Michael. We were discussing what "civil rights" means today, earlier. DavidWe: Leni, do you know, off the top of your head, a web site about the Japanese internment during WWII (Executive Order 9066)? LeniD: I'll just keep putting up links :-> DavidWe smiles GailGst3 joined the room. BJB2: Hi, Gail. Welcome DavidWe waves to Gail GailGst3: Hi there LeniD: David, the Japanese American section of the Learning Page feature presentation on Immigration discusses such content. We also have a lesson on Japanese Internment. ChantaratP: so that I used to work with UNESCO , BKK , and to implement this concept to school in thailand, but there is some mis understand and practice and i mention earier LeniD: Hi Gail :-) GailGst3: I've been having computer issues and just stopped by to say hello LeniD: It's always good to have you here, Gail :-) DavidWe wonders if Gail has been having Windows computer issues DavidWe smiles SusanR joined the room. GailGst3 left the room (signed off). MichaelH: well, Chantarat, the issue of Gender equality is a major one in this country as well LeniD: Historians Discuss Images of Early African American Life MichaelH waves to Sue LeniD: http://www.loc.gov/locvideo/lewis_willis/ LeniD: Welcome Susan :-) ChantaratP: hi Susan LeniD: From the Learning Page... DavidWe: I'm impressed, Leni. You and your colleagues at LOC have really been doing some work LeniD: Ethnic and Multicultural History (a collection of carefully selected links to resources outside of the Library) LeniD: We do work with such wonderful content...it's a work of great love. LeniD: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/learn/start/inres/ushist/ethnic.html LeniD: From Slavery to Civil Rights (an interactive timeline) LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/civilrights/flash.html LeniD: And one some of you saw recently, when we discussed political cartoons... LeniD: ItÕs No Laughing Matter LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/political_cartoon/index.html DavidWe smiles DavidWe claps DavidWe likes cartoons LeniD: I'm glad you like that, David. We have had some very good feedback about this activity :-) LeniD: If you are looking for lesson plans to use with your students... LeniD: For middle school to high school... LeniD: To Kill a Mockingbird LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/98/mock/intro.html DavidWe: My niece, Justine, is here and she is reading "To Kill A Mockingbird" right now in 8th grade LeniD: And for high school students... LeniD: After Reconstruction LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/rec/rhome.html LeniD: From Jim Crow to Linda Brown LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/97/crow/crowhome.html LeniD: Jackie Steals Home LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/98/robinson/intro.html LeniD: Rounding the Bases LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/00/base/index.html LeniD: Maybe she can tell her teacher about this lesson, David. LeniD: Two Unreconciled Strivings LeniD: http://memory.loc.gov/learn/lessons/98/two/index.html LeniD: Most of what I've shown thus far is for teachers to use with their students or for their own edification. Would you like to see resources that you can send students to on their own? MarkAH nods SusanR nods as well LeniD: From America's Library... SusanR . o O ( just finished watching Unforgivable Blackness: The Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson on PBS ) GailP joined the room. LeniD: Susan, we were talking about that earlier. LeniD: Hi Gail :-) GailP: Finally got here! LeniD: Civil Rights Leader Martin Luther King Jr. Was Born LeniD: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/jb/wwii/king_1 LeniD: John Brown Took Harpers Ferry Hostage LeniD: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/jb/reform/brown_1 LeniD: Frederick Douglass LeniD: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/aa/douglass LeniD: Harriet Tubman LeniD: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/aa/tubman LeniD: Langston Hughes LeniD: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/page.cgi/aa/writers/hughes LeniD: And...folks our time is just about up. Sorry! MichaelH: Does anyone have any last second questions for Leni? LeniD: You can find all of these resources and more in your transcripts and in the Learning Page Community Center on Civil Rights... GailP: Leni - Did you have a chance to show the Voices of Civil Rights project? MichaelH: Next chat, Leni? MarkAH: These are wonderful resources... thanks ever so much LeniD: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/learn/community/index.html LeniD: You are welcome! GailP: If not, here is the url: http://www.voicesofcivilrights.org/ MarkAH: I have been screenshoting so I can pass them and this transcript along to our planning group LeniD: Join us next month for a discussion of the Civil War... MichaelH: can't wait for that one :) LeniD: February 17. 2005 LeniD: 8:00 P.M. ET LeniD: Mark, drop me a line if you want to talk about support for your grant. MarkAH: I will do that... your email? LeniD: I've got another chat in the wings...must leave... ChantaratP: Thanks Leini your discussion is very good, indeed, MarkAH: Thanks GailP left the room (signed off). DavidWe: Thanks, Leni MarkAH: And thanks to Bj and Michael MichaelH: Glad you could join us Mark LeniD: You are all welcome. Good night! SusanR: Thanks for the outstanding resources ChantaratP: and bye, bye,everyone MichaelH: Nice to see you again, Chantarat MarkAH waves bye ChantaratP: me too Michael LeniD left the room. MichaelH left the room (signed off). MarkAH left the room (signed off). 2005.01.20 18:02:06 Signoff ---------------------- Private Messages ------------------- Private dialog with: LeniD LeniD: ldon@loc.gov